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      CommentAuthorxtratuf
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2010
     
    Just wondering the status of a National Competition. Are people still supportive/into the idea? It would be nice to get some buzz going- talking to sponsors in an effort to get funds to pay for flights, etc.

    -What dates are good? I propose setting it for the same weekend as the SF Bike Expo in November.
    -What cities would like to be a part of it?

    Thoughts? Concerns?
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      CommentAuthorjonfen
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2010 edited
     
    Murphy Mack (West Coast Gold Sprints) is going to be putting them on, and to get the name correct it will be the Goldsprints Roller Racing World Championships. Maybe next year we can do it in England, or another cool place. After all, we have been shipping kits EVERYWHERE.

    He was thinking about doing it at Interbike, probably the Thursday -- since Wed is CrossVegas and Friday people are either flying home or being tourists.

    It would also increase the bum-a-ride potential since so many people go to it.

    I think any city can go, but we will need to establish the promoter rules, so that someone HAS TO qualify locally.
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      CommentAuthorHPTA
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2010
     
    Denver is Interested.

    A group of folks from FM Magazine are trying to put together a monthly series to bring riders out of the winter. It could culminate in a final before Interbike.
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      CommentAuthordylan
    • CommentTimeFeb 23rd 2010
     
    Definitely in for this. also probably a good idea to qualify riders, but that'll be up to the folks promoting it.

    Let us know what we can do to help...and how many wicked-fast Texans to send out.
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      CommentAuthormoses
    • CommentTimeFeb 24th 2010
     
    Vancouver would be down. I know some people in the great white north that wouldn't mind a trip to Vegas.
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      CommentAuthorxtratuf
    • CommentTimeFeb 24th 2010
     
    So Vegas then? Sounds good. Is West Coast Gold Sprints the folks that put on the Kreitler Cup last year?

    It seems like planning should start soon- especially if local promoters are responsible for transportation for their cities riders. In Seattle- I am thinking something like a 3 month Emerald Sprints series- probably the regional final taking place during our Bicycle Film Fest- mid summer.

    A couple questions:
    --How many riders should each city send/what categories will there be? (Men, Women, Masters, etc.)
    --Will there be a national sponsor to supplement travel expenses, or is wholly the responsibility of local promoters?
    --Will the event in Vegas be 21+?
    --What sort of prizes do the winners receive?
    --Will there be a "wildcard" qualifying round in Vegas?

    As Jonfen says:
    I think any city can go, but we will need to establish the promoter rules, so that someone HAS TO qualify locally.


    I feel that local promotion is key here. We want a wide range of racers- that can compete on a national level. Though all our setups might not be exactly the same- as long as the key elements are we should be ok. I think it would be good to know what the actual West Coast Gold Sprints Finals equipment will be so local promoters have the option to set it up the same locally. The differences between a 250m race and a 400m race- as well as the difference between racing fixed wheel vs. free wheel is pretty big.

    This is going to be a lot of fun.
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      CommentAuthorxtratuf
    • CommentTimeFeb 24th 2010
     
    Jonfen posted this from West Coast Gold Sprints- what I presume will be the National Setup?:
    Official Specs (and reasons)


    * Frame size for all bikes: 53cm

    * Handlebars: Uncut Bullhorns

    * Seatpost: 420 mm

    * Gear ratio: 53:12 fixed gear

    * Rear Hub: Fixed/Free (Flip Flop)

    * Seatpost Clamp: Quick release (with many backups)


    It seems that West Coast Gold Sprints uses the fixed wheel, so it may be time to switch back over to that...

    We may enact a .5 second or 1 second penalty if a racer rolls backwards, because a big sign on the handlebars didn't seem to prevent that from happening in the first half dozen or so races we put on.
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      CommentAuthordylan
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd 2010 edited
     
    penalty if a racer rolls backwards


    freewheel. problem solved.

    although the idea of having standard equipment from city to city is a good one, it's not practical to enforce it really. as long as what the racers use head-to-head are identical, it's a fair race. it just means that we cant really establish any sort of ranking or comparison until you get racers on the same rig.

    we have a similar setup, except that i'm not inclined to switch back to fixed wheel because people are often drunk and do. not. listen. and i like the idea of not having to make major repairs during or between races. if fixed is the mandate for nationals, then we'll deal with it once we find out who our fast guys are. i feel pretty confident that the top guys we've seen in dallas so far won't have a problem with it.
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      CommentAuthorxtratuf
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2010
     
    @Dylan-
    We will definitely continue to use freewheels for our fun based events- but at least knowing what the basic specs for the National Competition is will help as we get closer. Our rigs are identical and we intend to keep it that way- so the competition in Seattle will be legit.
    As an example- It is highly unlikely that we will be getting 53 tooth chainrings for our rigs.

    Thinking of having Regional finals in Seattle sometime between mid July and Mid August. It should give the winner enough time to get some time off for Nationals if they are happening at Interbike.
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      CommentAuthorHPTA
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2010
     
    Denver is moving forward with two events leading up to a yet to be determined qualification and elimination series this summer.

    We're changing out the gearing to match the national standard and sticking with freewheel till we get through the eliminations for safety reasons.

    Anybody have thoughts on tires? I'm thinking about switching over to some Conti Ultra Sport Trainer tires. Good idea? Pointless?
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      CommentAuthordylan
    • CommentTimeApr 20th 2010
     
    any more details on the plans for world champs? we done a few events in the past couple weeks and have a nice bit of interest about it.
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      CommentAuthorjonfen
    • CommentTimeMay 12th 2010
     
    They will be at Interbike this year. Murphy Mack is the contact, 415-690-6225
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      CommentAuthormurphy
    • CommentTimeMay 12th 2010
     
    hi guys.

    paul from kreitler and i may be in vegas this next week after the tour of california is over checking the venue for the event.

    my cell # is 415 690 6225 for questions.

    i've got a PR firm here in SF putting together the materials and i'll blast them out to all of you when they're ready in about two weeks.

    i'm doing six events in a row with the tour of california so that's been taking up a lot of time.

    i've got a couple of national sponsors and i'm working on getting some real cash.

    more later.

    xoxo

    murphy
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    Any plans tightened up on this?
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      CommentAuthorxtratuf
    • CommentTimeAug 3rd 2010 edited
     
    From http://www.gswc2010.com/release/

    GoldSprints World Championships Racing to Glory at Interbike 2010
    WestCoast GoldSprints and Open Sprints Unite to Showcase Best of International Roller Racing Talent

    San Francisco, CA – WestCoast GoldSprints, the only event organizer dedicated to roller racing, has announced it will host the 2010 GoldSprints World Championships this year in Las Vegas, coinciding with Interbike and in partnership with Open Sprints, the open source system for roller racing, Kreitler Rollers and Marin Bikes.

    Taking place on September 23, 2010 at 8pm at Las Palmas Mexican Grill (953 East Sahara Ave) in Last Vegas, the 2010 GoldSprints World Championships will offer racers in both men’s and women’s divisions $10,000 in cash and prizes. GoldSprints roller racing pits recreational riders, professional cyclists and industry fans against each other as they aim to complete the fastest 500 and 1,000-meter sprints on track bikes affixed to rollers.

    The 2010 GoldSprint World Championships will see the best GoldSprints racers from around the world converge to battle for supremacy. Qualifying rounds, hosted by both WestCoast GoldSprints and Open Sprints, start August 1 in 75 cities including San Francisco, New York, Chicago and Salt Lake City and culminate at the 2010 World Championships. International qualifying rounds are soon to follow, given the open source options available with Open Sprints systems. Wild Card entries will be open to Interbike attendees and the general public, with wild card qualifying rounds taking place at Kreitler Rollers’ Interbike booth #4381 on September 22 and 23.

    “Last year’s GoldSprints event at Interbike was a screaming success because attendees were stoked by the Kreiter Cup,” said Murphy Mack, who founded WestCoast GoldSprints in 2006. “This year we’re taking roller racing to the next level, with preliminary races held in partnership with Open Sprints and evening entertainment from H.R. Muff’N Stuff and the Pedal Panties Girls. We’re looking forward to the no-holds barred, sweat-inducing, crowd-thrilling battle of the first ever GoldSprints World Championships. Be sure to follow us on Twitter @WCGoldSprints to keep up to date on developments prior to the big showdown.”

    * What: 2010 Gold Sprints World Championships
    * When: Thursday September 23rd, 2010
    * Where: Las Palmas Mexican Grill, 953 East Sahara Avenue, Las Vegas, NV
    * Time: 8pm – 2am PDT; doors open at 7:30pm PDT
    * Sponsors: Open Sprints, Kreitler Rollers and Marin Bikes
    * $10,000 in cash and prizes
    * Entry fee: $20, which is entered into the cash purse
    * www.gswc2010.com ; Twitter: @WCGoldSprints

    GoldSprint event and press inquiries:
    Murphy Mack
    WestCoast GoldSprints
    Goldsprints-at-gmail-dot-com
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    Cant wait. I still think a freewheel removes alot of issues that are encountered with a fixed setup, but these guys have put on alot of events and know what they are doing. When we were considering doing the worlds earlier in the year in SF possibly i ran a qualifier in March. I am hoping those guys can still race. they are looking forward to it.
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      CommentAuthorwoz
    • CommentTimeAug 17th 2010
     
    you would probably need a different hub to fit a 12 tooth single speed freewheel
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      CommentAuthorxtratuf
    • CommentTimeAug 28th 2010
     
    suicideking:Cant wait. I still think a freewheel removes alot of issues that are encountered with a fixed setup, but these guys have put on alot of events and know what they are doing. When we were considering doing the worlds earlier in the year in SF possibly i ran a qualifier in March. I am hoping those guys can still race. they are looking forward to it.


    It is true- it does solve many of the problems of having people that don't know what they're doing, but as far as being competitive, riding fixed will be very different. The main reason I'm running fixed is to familiarize the SEA racers with the equipment that they'll be riding in Las Vegas.

    woz:you would probably need a different hub to fit a 12 tooth single speed freewheel


    Yeah, you'd be hardpressed to find a 12T SS freewheel. I'm using a 14T fixed cog because the 12T will wear down a lot faster.

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